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An open letter to confused Catholics
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
One had the faith - or perhaps had lost it - or had never had it. But he who had it - who had entered the Church through baptism, who had renewed
his baptismal promises around the age of twelve and had received the Holy Ghost on the day of his confirmation - such a person knew what he had to believe and what he had to do.
Many today no longer know. They hear all sorts of astonishing statements in the
churches, they read things contrary to what was always taught, and doubt has crept into their minds.
#reading #lefebvre #church #vatican2
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
One had the faith - or perhaps had lost it - or had never had it. But he who had it - who had entered the Church through baptism, who had renewed
his baptismal promises around the age of twelve and had received the Holy Ghost on the day of his confirmation - such a person knew what he had to believe and what he had to do.
Many today no longer know. They hear all sorts of astonishing statements in the
churches, they read things contrary to what was always taught, and doubt has crept into their minds.
#reading #lefebvre #church #vatican2
Ecce Verbum
the_problem_of_the_liturgical_reform(1).pdf
Ratzinger: "Novus Ordo Does not Correspond To Vatican II"
Below are some quotes of Joseph Ratzinger/Benedict XVI on Vatican II and the liturgy.
"The way in which the new Missal was introduced departs from previous ecclesiastical legal customs, such as those observed by Pius V in his missal reform…. The problem of the new Missal lies in the fact that it breaks away from this continuous history, which has always gone on before and after Pius V, and creates a thoroughly new book (albeit from old material), the appearance of which is accompanied by a type of prohibition of what has gone before that is quite unheard-of in the history of ecclesiastical law and liturgy. I can say with certainty, based on my knowledge of the conciliar debates and my repeated reading of the speeches made by the Council Fathers, that [the new Missal] does not correspond to the intentions of the Second Vatican Council."
- Father Joseph Ratzinger, 1976 (Letter to Wolfgang Waldstein).
"In part it is simply a fact that the Council was pushed aside. It had said that the language of the Latin Rite was to remain Latin, although suitable scope might be given to the vernacular. Today we might ask: Is there a Latin Rite at all anymore?" –Ratzinger, 1986 (The Feast of Faith: Approaches to a Theology of the Liturgy)
"The liturgical reform, in its concrete execution, has moved further and further away from this origin [in the best of the Liturgical Movement]. The result has not been reinvigoration but devastation…. [I]n place of the liturgy that had developed, one has put a liturgy that has been made. One has deserted the vital process of growth and becoming in order to substitute a fabrication. One no longer wanted to continue the organic developing and maturing of that which has been living through the centuries, but instead, one replaced it, in the manner of technical production, with a fabrication, the banal product of the moment." -Ratzinger, 1990 (Theologisches), 20.2 (Feb. 1990), 103–4, citing the commentary in Simandron—Der Wachklopfer. Gedenkschrift für Klaus Gamber (1919-1989), ed. Wilhelm Nyssen (Cologne: Luthe-Verlag, 1989), 13–15.
"A sizable party of Catholic liturgists seems to have practically arrived at the conclusion that Luther, rather than Trent, was substantially right in the sixteenth century debate […]. It is only against this background of the effective denial of the authority of Trent, that the bitterness of the struggle against allowing the celebration of Mass according to the 1962 Missal, after the liturgical reform, can be understood."
-Ratzinger, 2003 (Address in: Looking Again at the Question of the Liturgy).
"In the history of the liturgy there is growth and progress, but no rupture. What earlier generations held as sacred, remains sacred and great for us too, and it cannot be all of a sudden entirely forbidden or even considered harmful." -Benedict XVI, (Letter to Bishops accompanying Summorum Pontificum, 2007).
There are many more passages like these, which have been gathered here. and here
Source, more comments of the bishops on Vatican II
Further reading :
The Council Fathers in Support of Latin: Correcting a Narrative Bias
Is Your Liturgy Like What Vatican II Intended
The Outrageous Propaganda of Archbishop Roche
“Recollections of a Vatican II Peritus” by Alfons Cardinal Stickler — Another Nail in the Coffin of the Roche Narrative
How the New Mass was created after Vatican II — MASS OF THE AGES Episode 2
FIUV Position Paper: Tradition, Restoration, and Reform
What Vatican II Said (and Didn’t Say) about the Liturgy
Full translation of Benedict XVI letter of support to Müller after dismissal by Francis -- plus: Ratzinger explains the liturgical revolution
#vatican2 #liturgy
Below are some quotes of Joseph Ratzinger/Benedict XVI on Vatican II and the liturgy.
"The way in which the new Missal was introduced departs from previous ecclesiastical legal customs, such as those observed by Pius V in his missal reform…. The problem of the new Missal lies in the fact that it breaks away from this continuous history, which has always gone on before and after Pius V, and creates a thoroughly new book (albeit from old material), the appearance of which is accompanied by a type of prohibition of what has gone before that is quite unheard-of in the history of ecclesiastical law and liturgy. I can say with certainty, based on my knowledge of the conciliar debates and my repeated reading of the speeches made by the Council Fathers, that [the new Missal] does not correspond to the intentions of the Second Vatican Council."
- Father Joseph Ratzinger, 1976 (Letter to Wolfgang Waldstein).
"In part it is simply a fact that the Council was pushed aside. It had said that the language of the Latin Rite was to remain Latin, although suitable scope might be given to the vernacular. Today we might ask: Is there a Latin Rite at all anymore?" –Ratzinger, 1986 (The Feast of Faith: Approaches to a Theology of the Liturgy)
"The liturgical reform, in its concrete execution, has moved further and further away from this origin [in the best of the Liturgical Movement]. The result has not been reinvigoration but devastation…. [I]n place of the liturgy that had developed, one has put a liturgy that has been made. One has deserted the vital process of growth and becoming in order to substitute a fabrication. One no longer wanted to continue the organic developing and maturing of that which has been living through the centuries, but instead, one replaced it, in the manner of technical production, with a fabrication, the banal product of the moment." -Ratzinger, 1990 (Theologisches), 20.2 (Feb. 1990), 103–4, citing the commentary in Simandron—Der Wachklopfer. Gedenkschrift für Klaus Gamber (1919-1989), ed. Wilhelm Nyssen (Cologne: Luthe-Verlag, 1989), 13–15.
"A sizable party of Catholic liturgists seems to have practically arrived at the conclusion that Luther, rather than Trent, was substantially right in the sixteenth century debate […]. It is only against this background of the effective denial of the authority of Trent, that the bitterness of the struggle against allowing the celebration of Mass according to the 1962 Missal, after the liturgical reform, can be understood."
-Ratzinger, 2003 (Address in: Looking Again at the Question of the Liturgy).
"In the history of the liturgy there is growth and progress, but no rupture. What earlier generations held as sacred, remains sacred and great for us too, and it cannot be all of a sudden entirely forbidden or even considered harmful." -Benedict XVI, (Letter to Bishops accompanying Summorum Pontificum, 2007).
There are many more passages like these, which have been gathered here. and here
Source, more comments of the bishops on Vatican II
Further reading :
The Council Fathers in Support of Latin: Correcting a Narrative Bias
Is Your Liturgy Like What Vatican II Intended
The Outrageous Propaganda of Archbishop Roche
“Recollections of a Vatican II Peritus” by Alfons Cardinal Stickler — Another Nail in the Coffin of the Roche Narrative
How the New Mass was created after Vatican II — MASS OF THE AGES Episode 2
FIUV Position Paper: Tradition, Restoration, and Reform
What Vatican II Said (and Didn’t Say) about the Liturgy
Full translation of Benedict XVI letter of support to Müller after dismissal by Francis -- plus: Ratzinger explains the liturgical revolution
#vatican2 #liturgy
Sharon Kabel
Catholic fact check: Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and the fabricated liturgy | Sharon Kabel
The following quotation is attributed to Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI:
The liturgical reform, in its concrete realization, has distanced itself even more from its origin. The result has not been a reanimation, but devastation. In…
The liturgical reform, in its concrete realization, has distanced itself even more from its origin. The result has not been a reanimation, but devastation. In…